17 Reasons
the Rapture Happens
AFTER the Great Tribulation
the Rapture Happens
AFTER the Great Tribulation
SUMMARY:
This is a Cross Examination of the evidence and testimony used by Pretribbers to support their position.
Using the scriptures to test the validity of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture position this cross examination reveals that the evidence provided by Pretribbers does not support their position. The evidence provided here proves that the rapture occurs after the great tribulation that Jesus speaks of in
Matthew 24:21
This is a thorough summary of the full report.
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Pre- tribulationism: asserts that the Rapture occurs before the Tribulation begins;
Post- tribulationism: asserts that the Rapture occurs at the end of the Tribulation, (Church present on earth while God's wrath is poured out but protected from God's wrath);
Pre- Wrath Rapture: asserts that the Rapture occurs at the end of the Tribulation, (Church removed from the earth before God's wrath is poured out).
Reason One
Rapture Quotes:
Pretribbers cite John 14:1-3, 1 Cor. 15:51-58 and 1 Thess. 4:13-18, as validation of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture.
These passages do declare a rapture event however none of these passages convey a specific time when the rapture will occur in relation to the Tribulation and therefore cannot be used to validate a Pre-Tribulation rapture.
Reason Two
Church in Book of Revelation:
Pretribbers state that the 7 year tribulation is the wrath of God and that the 7 year tribulation takes place from Rev. Ch. 6 through Rev. Ch. 18.
Pretribbers state that the Church is not depicted on earth during the 7 year tribulation because the Church is not depicted in the Book of Revelation from Rev. 6 through Ch. 18.
Pretribbers state that those people who are: “in Christ” and or “in the Lord,” are a part of the Church.
Revelation 14:13 states:
"Blessed are the dead--those who die in the Lord from this moment on.“
These people who are “in the Lord” are living and dying in the Lord after the 7th trumpet is blown, Rev. 11:15, and after the antichrist comes to power, Rev. Ch. 13.
The Bible is stating that Believers in Jesus are members of the Church and will be existing deep into the Great Tribulation.
The Pretribber’s assertion is contradicted by the Word of God.
Revelation 14:13 states:
"Blessed are the dead--those who die in the Lord from this moment on.“
These people who are “in the Lord” are living and dying in the Lord after the 7th trumpet is blown, Rev. 11:15, and after the antichrist comes to power, Rev. Ch. 13.
The Bible is stating that Believers in Jesus are members of the Church and will be existing deep into the Great Tribulation.
The Pretribber’s assertion is contradicted by the Word of God.
Reason Three
Tribulation Saints are in the Lord:
Pretribbers state that those people who are,“in the Lord” will take part in the Rapture.
The people of Rev. 14:13 who are living on earth are “in the Lord” and therefore will take part in the rapture according to Pretribbers.
Rev. 14:13 is towards the end of the Tribulation.
Conclusion: the rapture must take place towards end of the Tribulation or after the Tribulation has concluded.
The Word of God contradicts the Pretribbers.
Reason Four
First Resurrection:
This is a Cross Examination of the evidence and testimony used by Pretribbers to support their position.
Using the scriptures to test the validity of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture position this cross examination reveals that the evidence provided by Pretribbers does not support their position. The evidence provided here proves that the rapture occurs after the great tribulation that Jesus speaks of in
Matthew 24:21
This is a thorough summary of the full report.
To read the full report click here.
Pre- tribulationism: asserts that the Rapture occurs before the Tribulation begins;
Post- tribulationism: asserts that the Rapture occurs at the end of the Tribulation, (Church present on earth while God's wrath is poured out but protected from God's wrath);
Pre- Wrath Rapture: asserts that the Rapture occurs at the end of the Tribulation, (Church removed from the earth before God's wrath is poured out).
Reason One
Rapture Quotes:
Pretribbers cite John 14:1-3, 1 Cor. 15:51-58 and 1 Thess. 4:13-18, as validation of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture.
These passages do declare a rapture event however none of these passages convey a specific time when the rapture will occur in relation to the Tribulation and therefore cannot be used to validate a Pre-Tribulation rapture.
Reason Two
Church in Book of Revelation:
Pretribbers state that the 7 year tribulation is the wrath of God and that the 7 year tribulation takes place from Rev. Ch. 6 through Rev. Ch. 18.
Pretribbers state that the Church is not depicted on earth during the 7 year tribulation because the Church is not depicted in the Book of Revelation from Rev. 6 through Ch. 18.
Pretribbers state that those people who are: “in Christ” and or “in the Lord,” are a part of the Church.
Revelation 14:13 states:
"Blessed are the dead--those who die in the Lord from this moment on.“
These people who are “in the Lord” are living and dying in the Lord after the 7th trumpet is blown, Rev. 11:15, and after the antichrist comes to power, Rev. Ch. 13.
The Bible is stating that Believers in Jesus are members of the Church and will be existing deep into the Great Tribulation.
The Pretribber’s assertion is contradicted by the Word of God.
Revelation 14:13 states:
"Blessed are the dead--those who die in the Lord from this moment on.“
These people who are “in the Lord” are living and dying in the Lord after the 7th trumpet is blown, Rev. 11:15, and after the antichrist comes to power, Rev. Ch. 13.
The Bible is stating that Believers in Jesus are members of the Church and will be existing deep into the Great Tribulation.
The Pretribber’s assertion is contradicted by the Word of God.
Reason Three
Tribulation Saints are in the Lord:
Pretribbers state that those people who are,“in the Lord” will take part in the Rapture.
The people of Rev. 14:13 who are living on earth are “in the Lord” and therefore will take part in the rapture according to Pretribbers.
Rev. 14:13 is towards the end of the Tribulation.
Conclusion: the rapture must take place towards end of the Tribulation or after the Tribulation has concluded.
The Word of God contradicts the Pretribbers.
Reason Four
First Resurrection:
Pretribbers assert that at the Rapture of the Church the dead in Christ will rise first and then those who are alive, who are left, will be caught up with the resurrected dead into the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
1 Thess. 4:13-18
Pretribbers are stating that the first resurrection of the dead coincides with the rapture of the Church.
“Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years.” Rev 20:4-6
Rev 20:4-6 describes Believers in Christ who lived on earth during the Great Tribulation at the same time as the antichrist. These Believers take part in the first resurrection.
Since the first resurrection is the rapture of the Church than these Believers in Jesus must take part in the rapture of the Church.
Since these Believers live on earth at the end of the Tribulation than the rapture cannot take place before the Tribulation begins but must take place at the end of the Tribulation.
The Word of God contradicts the Pretribbers’ position.
Reason Five
Wrath of God:
Pretribbers assert that the Church does not go through the tribulation because the Church is not subjected to God’s wrath for if the Church were to go through the tribulation than the Church would be subjected to God’s wrath.
Nahum 1:2, Romans 1:18, Romans 5:9, 1 John 3:14, John 3:36, 1 Thess. 1:10, 1 Thess. 5:9, Luke 21:36, Rev. 3:10
All Pretribbers acknowledge that many people, probably millions, will become Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ during the Tribulation
Rev. 6:9-11, Rev. 7:9-14, Rev. 7:1-4, Rev. 9:1-4,
Rev. 14:1-5, Rev. 18:4, Rev. 20:4-6
According to Pretribbers’ logic millions of Tribulation saints will be subjected to God’s wrath during the Tribulation which contradicts the Pretribbers’ own assertion and the scriptures which state that God’s people are not subjected to His wrath.
Should Pretribbers argue that the Tribulation saints will not be subjected to God’s wrath but protected from it like the 144,000 Israelites who receive the seal of God, (Rev. 7:3-4 & Rev. 9:3-4), than the rationale that the Pretribbers use to justify the removal of the Church from earth so as not to go through the Tribulation no longer exists.
Conclusion: Pretribbers cannot use the Wrath of God principle as a justification to support their Pre-Tribulation Rapture doctrine.
Reason Six
Hour of God’s Wrath:
Pretribbers state that the “hour of the trial that is coming upon the whole world,” of Rev. 3:10 is equivalent to the 7 year Tribulation and therefore the Wrath of God.
Pretribbers conclude that since Jesus is going to keep the Church “out of” the “hour of trial” that Jesus will remove the Church from the earth before the 7 year Tribulation.
Reason Seven
Matthew 24 – To Israel or to the Church?
Pretribbers passionately contend that Matthew Ch. 24 is a message from Jesus to Israel and not to the Church because the “elect” in Mth. 24 is not the Church but is Israel.
This conjecture by the Pretribbers is false.
Four Absolute Proofs that the “elect” in Mth. 24 is not Israel but is the Church verifying that Mth. 24 is about the Church
ONE:
The “elect” in Mth. 24 are willing to be persecuted and die for
the Name of Jesus.
Jews are not willing to be persecuted and die for the Name of
Jesus.
Therefore the message in Mth. 24 cannot be to nor about Jews or Israel since it is to those people who are willing to suffer and die for the Name of Jesus.
TWO:
The “elect” in Mth. 24 are NOT deceived about who the Messiah is; about who Jesus is.
Jews and Israel ARE deceived about who the Messiah is; about who Jesus is and will continue to be deceived until Jesus sets foot down on the Mt. of Olives.
Since this message is to those who are not deceived, Christians, this message in Mth. 24 cannot be to Jews or Israel
THREE:
The “elect” in Mth. 24 are directed by Jesus to look for Him, the Messiah, coming from heaven. The “elect” are looking to heaven for the Messiah to come from.
Jews and Israel are NOT looking for a Messiah, an Anointed King, from heaven. They are looking for a military and political leader from the earth as their Messiah.
Since Jews are not looking for Jesus to come from heaven than the “elect” in Mth. 24 cannot be about Jews or Israel.
These four proofs, these 4 facts, are more than enough evidence to establish that Mth. 24 is about the Church and is not about Israel or Jews.
Reason Eight
Matthew 24:31: Rapture Or Second Coming?
Mth. 24:30-31 is a clear depiction of the Rapture of the Church.
“At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.” Mth. 24:31
This passage about the rapture of the church creates a significant dilemma for the Pretribbers.
To maintain their doctrine Pretribbers have come up with the fanciful idea that this passage is about Jesus using angels to gather Jews from around the world and then depositing the Jews back into their geographical land of Israel thereby fulfilling Old Testament prophecies.
If the Pretribbers’ argument were true than there would be 3 COMINGS of Jesus to earth and not 2.
The Bible clearly teaches that there are only two events left in which Jesus appears in the sky over the world before the Millennial Reign of Christ begins.
The FIRST is when Jesus comes on the clouds and Raptures the Church to Himself into Heaven.
The SECOND is when Jesus comes on a horse with the Church to establish His earthly kingdom.
There is no Third time in which Jesus appears in the sky above the world therefore this idea that Jesus comes in between the Rapture and His Second Coming is something that is made up out of speculation.
Pretribbers respond by stating that Mth. 24:31 is the Second Coming of Jesus.
The problem with that response is that at the Second Coming Jesus comes on a horse, Revelation 19:11-16 and in Mth. 24:31 Jesus comes on the clouds which is the depiction of Jesus coming to Rapture His Church.
Matthew 24:31: Rapture Or Second Coming?
Mth. 24:30-31 is a clear depiction of the Rapture of the Church.
“At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.” Mth. 24:31
This passage about the rapture of the church creates a significant dilemma for the Pretribbers.
To maintain their doctrine Pretribbers have come up with the fanciful idea that this passage is about Jesus using angels to gather Jews from around the world and then depositing the Jews back into their geographical land of Israel thereby fulfilling Old Testament prophecies.
If the Pretribbers’ argument were true than there would be 3 COMINGS of Jesus to earth and not 2.
The Bible clearly teaches that there are only two events left in which Jesus appears in the sky over the world before the Millennial Reign of Christ begins.
The FIRST is when Jesus comes on the clouds and Raptures the Church to Himself into Heaven.
The SECOND is when Jesus comes on a horse with the Church to establish His earthly kingdom.
There is no Third time in which Jesus appears in the sky above the world therefore this idea that Jesus comes in between the Rapture and His Second Coming is something that is made up out of speculation.
Pretribbers respond by stating that Mth. 24:31 is the Second Coming of Jesus.
The problem with that response is that at the Second Coming Jesus comes on a horse, Revelation 19:11-16 and in Mth. 24:31 Jesus comes on the clouds which is the depiction of Jesus coming to Rapture His Church.
It has been established that the “elect” in Mth. 24 is the Church. And that the angels gather the “elect,” the Church, in Mth. 24:31 and therefore the angels are not gathering Jews.
“……gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. “ Mth. 24:31
Reason Nine
Daniel’s 70th Week and the 7 year Tribulation:
The Pretribulation doctrine is significantly dependent upon the belief that Daniel’s 70th week has not been completed and will be completed in the future.
Daniel’s 70th week is the last week of the prophecy given to the prophet Daniel regarding the future events of Israel in Daniel 9:24-27.
Additionally Pretribbers assert that Daniel’s 70th week correlates to the Great Tribulation of Matthew 24:21 and the events that transpire from Revelation chapter 6 through chapter 18.
Daniel’s 70th Week and the 7 year Tribulation:
The Pretribulation doctrine is significantly dependent upon the belief that Daniel’s 70th week has not been completed and will be completed in the future.
Daniel’s 70th week is the last week of the prophecy given to the prophet Daniel regarding the future events of Israel in Daniel 9:24-27.
Additionally Pretribbers assert that Daniel’s 70th week correlates to the Great Tribulation of Matthew 24:21 and the events that transpire from Revelation chapter 6 through chapter 18.
Pretribbers’ hypothesis of Daniel’s 70th week being synonymous with the Tribulation is derived from the premise that Daniel’s 70th week has not occurred because the prophetic events in Daniel’s prophecy have not been completed.
Since the events of Daniel’s prophecy have not been completed they will be completed by the end of the Tribulation and before Jesus sets up His Millennial Kingdom.
If the Pretribbers’ premise about Daniel’s 70th week corresponding to the Tribulation is to be TRUE than all of the prophetic events of the prophecy must be completed by the end of the Tribulation and before the Millennial Kingdom begins.
Should any ONE of the events not be completed by the end of the Tribulation and before the Millennial Kingdom begins than the Pretribbers’ premise will be proven to be FALSE.
The SIX prophetic events that must be concluded by the end of the Tribulation are:
"Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city,
1) to finish the transgression,
2) to make an end of sin,
3) to make atonement for iniquity,
4) to bring in everlasting righteousness,
5) to seal up vision and prophecy and
6) to anoint the most holy.”
Daniel 9:24
Sin and Un-righteousness will continue to be present on earth during Christ’s Millennial Kingdom but at a much less degree of force than what they exert now.
Daniel’s Prophetic events number 2 and 4:
2) to make an end of sin
and
4) to bring in everlasting righteousness,
will not be completed at the end of the Tribulation and before the beginning of the Millennial Kingdom and therefore Daniel’s 70th week cannot be the same as the Tribulation as Pretribbers assert.
The Pretribbers’ position is False.
All 6 of Daniel’s Prophetic Events were completed 2,000 years ago.
1) to finish the transgression,
Jesus put an end of the transgressions of Israel and all people.
Isaiah 53:8, Isaiah 53:-9, Isaiah 53:12, Jn. 19:30, Col. 2:13-15, Heb. 9:15
2) to make an end of sin,
Jesus has made an end of sin by becoming sin on the cross and able to cleanse all from sin who come to Him.
Jn. 1:29, 1 Jn. 3:5, 1 Cor. 15:3, 1 Jn. 2:2, Hebrews 9:28, 2 Cor. 5:21, 1 Jn. 3:5
3) to make atonement for iniquity,
Jesus made atonement and reconciled people to God the Father through Himself, to all who call on Jesus.
Jn. 14:6, Eph. 2:18, Romans 5:10, 2 Cor. 5:18, Col. 1:20, Col. 1:19-22, Eph. 2:14-16, Hebrews 9:28, Col. 2:13-15, Rom. 3:25, 1 Jn. 2:2, Mth. 27:51,Heb. 9:11-12, Heb. 9:15
4) to bring in everlasting righteousness,
Jesus is the everlasting righteousness of God whom He bestows upon those who receive Him by faith.
Rom. 3:21-22, Phil. 3:9, 2 Cor. 5:21, Rom. 5:17-21, James 2:23, 2 Tim. 4:8, Rom. 10:4, Gal. 3:6
5) to seal up vision and prophecy,
Jesus fulfilled the visions and prophecies of the Old Testament prophets.
Luke 24:25-27, Rev. 19:10, Dan. 12:4, Acts 3:21-26
In order for the Pretribbers’ theory to be true there must be a gap in time between the 69th week and the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy. That is Pretribbers assert that 69 weeks, which is 483 years, have transpired but the last 70th week, 7 years has not.
Pretribbers believe that the last week of Daniel’s prophecy will commence when the Church is raptured from the earth.
Contrary to the Pretribbers’ assertions Daniel’s 70th week cannot be fulfilled at the end of the Tribulation rendering their position invalid.
Daniel’s 70th week has already been completed based upon what Jesus has already done.
More evidence available in the full report.
Daniel’s 70th week has already been completed based upon what Jesus has already done.
More evidence available in the full report.
Reason Ten
Removal of the Restrainer – the Holy Spirit:
Pretribbers claim that the Holy Spirit in the presence of the Church must be removed from the earth before the antichrist is revealed and therefore before the Tribulation begins. They cite 2 Thess. 2:6-8 for this belief.
“For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed,..” 2 Thess. 2:7-8
“For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed,..” 2 Thess. 2:7-8
One: the phrase, “taken out of the way” does not necessarily mean or prove “taken out of the world,” and to apply that interpretation is speculative.
Two: “he” is not the Church for the Church is the bride of Christ and described as a female. Once again just because “he” is taken out of the way does not mean the Church is taken out of the world.
Three: Pretribbers acknowledge that the Holy Spirit, the “he,” will remain in the world to bring the Tribulation saints to salvation in Christ contradicting their assertion that “he” is removed.
Four: Pretribbers use these passages out of context and therefore place the events out of chronological order. When interpreting the above passages they must be done so in the context of the entire section 2 Thess. 2:1-8.
“Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him…” 2 Thess. 2:1
“It, (the rapture of the Church), will not come until ……the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed.” 2 Thess. 2:3
It is unambiguous, the rapture of the Church will not happen until after the antichrist is revealed.
The Pretribbers are contradicted by the Word of God
Reason Eleven
Judgment Seat of Christ:
Removal of the Restrainer – the Holy Spirit:
Pretribbers claim that the Holy Spirit in the presence of the Church must be removed from the earth before the antichrist is revealed and therefore before the Tribulation begins. They cite 2 Thess. 2:6-8 for this belief.
“For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed,..” 2 Thess. 2:7-8
“For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed,..” 2 Thess. 2:7-8
One: the phrase, “taken out of the way” does not necessarily mean or prove “taken out of the world,” and to apply that interpretation is speculative.
Two: “he” is not the Church for the Church is the bride of Christ and described as a female. Once again just because “he” is taken out of the way does not mean the Church is taken out of the world.
Three: Pretribbers acknowledge that the Holy Spirit, the “he,” will remain in the world to bring the Tribulation saints to salvation in Christ contradicting their assertion that “he” is removed.
Four: Pretribbers use these passages out of context and therefore place the events out of chronological order. When interpreting the above passages they must be done so in the context of the entire section 2 Thess. 2:1-8.
“Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him…” 2 Thess. 2:1
“It, (the rapture of the Church), will not come until ……the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed.” 2 Thess. 2:3
It is unambiguous, the rapture of the Church will not happen until after the antichrist is revealed.
The Pretribbers are contradicted by the Word of God
Reason Eleven
Judgment Seat of Christ:
In 2018 2.3 Billion people on earth identify themselves as Christians.
There are 630,000,000 Evangelicals living on earth in 2018 alone.
Pretribbers state that the gap in time between the Rapture and the Second Coming is 7 years long corresponding to the 7 year Tribulation.
There are 60,480 hours in 7 years.
If Jesus were to spend 3 minutes with each saint at the Judgment Seat 24 hours a day 7 days a week for the entire 7 years Jesus would be able to award a total of 1,209,600 Christians.
If Jesus spent 40 years rewarding the saints at the rate described above the total saints awarded would total 6,912,000 Christians.
There are 630,000,000 Evangelicals living on earth in 2018 alone.
According to the Pretribbers ‘ logic only 1,209,600 Christians will be awarded at the Judgment Seat of Christ over 7 years or 6,912,000 Christians over 40 years.
The Pretribbers calculations and logic is not consistent with the Word of God.
If the time to award the saints is reduced to 1 minute that would amount to less than 4 million saints being awarded at the Judgment Seat of Christ over 7 years or 23 million saints over 40 years.
That would leave anywhere from 607,000,000 to 626,000,000 Evangelicals with no time to be awarded at the Judgment Seat of Christ.
According to Pretribbers’ logic it will take 3,645 years in order to present the rewards to all 630 million saints by spending 3 minutes on each saint and doing so 24 hours a day for 7 days a week.
Or 1,214 years to reward each saint for 1 minute of time each.
Or 607 years to reward each saint for 30 seconds of time each.
Reason Twelve
The Sheep and the Goats:
Another reason Pretribbers use to justify a gap in time between the rapture and the Second Coming and therefore the Pretrib Rapture is the Sheep and the Goats Judgment of Mth. 25:31-46.
In this parable Jesus comes and separates the goats from the sheep. The Sheep are allowed into the Jesus’ kingdom and the Goats are not, the Goats are sent to the Lake of Fire.
According the Pretrib doctrine the Sheep are not Believers in Jesus of the Church Age but are Believers of only the Tribulation Age who make it to the end of the Tribulation alive and that the Goats represent all unbelievers who survive to the end of the 7 year Tribulation.
In John Ch. 10 Jesus says there is only one flock of Sheep, Jn. 10:16.
The Church is a part of that flock, therefore the Sheep in Mth. 25:31-46 is representative of the Church.
Therefore the Sheep in Mth. 25:31-46 will participate in the Rapture.
Since the Sheep are representative of the Church and the Goats do not represent all unbelievers the timing of this judgment cannot be in conjunction with the Second Coming.
This judgment must occur prior to or at the outset of the Rapture.
Rev. 6:14-17
Pretribbers cannot justify using the “Sheep and the Goats” parable to validate their position.
Reason Thirteen
Repopulating the Earth:
Pretribbers state that there needs to be a gap in time between the rapture and the Second Coming so that millions of people can come to saving faith in Christ in order for these people to repopulate the earth during the Millennial Reign of Christ. Pretribbers are claiming that it will take millions of people to populate the earth over 1,000 years.
It took only 2 people, Adam and Eve to populate the earth in 1600 years. In fact one biblical scientist estimates that 10 trillion people were living on the earth at the time of the flood.
It took only 8 people after the flood to repopulate the earth.
Under the perfect the ideal conditions of the Millennial Reign of Christ with no disease, no war, nor the negative affects of sin and crime the population of mankind could increase from 2,000 people, 1,000 couples, to 449 Million in 500 years; 3.6 Billion in 600 years; 29 Billion in 690 years; 466 Billion in 810 years; 3.7 Trillion in 900 years; and 29 Trillion in 990 years.
God does not need millions or even hundreds of thousands of people to populate the earth for the Millennial Kingdom of Christ.
For complete details read the full report.
Reason Fourteen
Sign-Less Event:
Pretribbers assert that no unfilled sign or prophetic event needs to occur prior to the rapture of the Church.
2 Thess. 2:1-4 states that the rapture will not happen until after the apostasy and the antichrist is revealed.
“No one should deceive you in any way, because it is not until the apostasy shall have come first, and the man of lawlessness shall have been revealed—the son of destruction,.” 2 Thess. 2:3
The Pretribbers’ assertion is false.
Pretribbers acknowledge that there are many signs in Matthew Ch. 24 regarding the coming of Jesus. Pretribbers wrongly conclude that all of these signs have to do with Jesus’ Second Coming and not the Rapture of the Church because they also wrongly conclude that the message in Matthew Ch. 24 is not to the Church but is to Israel.
Since Matthew 24 is to the Church and not to Israel the signs in Matthew 24 must occur prior to the Rapture of the Church.
After all of those signs then Jesus comes to Rapture the Church to Himself.
“They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.” Mth. 24:30-31
The Pretrib position is contradicted by what the Bible says.
Reason Fifteen
Imminency:
Pretribbers have put forth the idea that Christ’s return is imminent. And what they mean by that is Jesus could return today and since he could return today than no other prophetic event must occur before He returns.
As pointed out in the previously 2 Thess. 2:1-4 states that the rapture will not happen until after the apostasy and the antichrist is revealed.
Just because certain events must take place before Jesus comes for His Church does not mean that His coming is not imminent in that it could occur suddenly, unexpectedly and without warning.
It has already been established that Matthew chapter 24 is to the Church here we see that Mth. 24:36-44 contains the doctrine of Imminency and that it is applied to Mth. 24:30-31, Jesus’ return for His Church, the Rapture after the many signs and events occur before the Rapture Mth. 24:7-29.
Mth. 24:36-44 states:
1) vs. 36-37 & 42 “No one knows the day or hour….when the Son of Man comes.”
2) vs. 38-41 “The world is oblivious to His coming.”
3) vs. 43-44 “ Jesus comes at an hour when we do not expect Him.”
4) vs. 43 “Jesus comes like a thief in the night.”
5) vs. 42-44 ”We are exhorted to keep watching, looking for and preparing
for His, (Imminent), coming; to be ‘ready at all times,” vigilant.”
Many of the early Church fathers believed in the Imminency of Christ’s return but also believed that the antichrist would be revealed first.
Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho Irenaeus, Against Heresies BOOK V.
TERTULLIAN, ON THE RESURRECTION OF THE FLESH. HIPPOLYTUS OF ROME, THE EXTANT WORKS AND FRAGMENTS OF HIPPOLYTUS
Cyril of Jerusalem, By St. Cyril of Jerusalem
The Didache - The Lord's Teaching Through the Twelve Apostles to the Nations.
Reason Sixteen
Rapture vs. Return:
Pretribbers’ erroneously assert that Posttribbers believe that the Rapture of the Church and the Second Coming of Jesus, the Return, are that same event or happen so close in time to one another so as render the difference between the two events meaningless.
That simply is not true.
Posttribbers believe that the two events are distinct from one another and occur at separate times just like Pretribbers. The only difference between the two positions is the amount of time that transpires between the two events and the fact that the rapture occurs after the tribulation rather than before the tribulation.
Pretribbers cannot legitimately proclaim that Posttribbers believe the Rapture and the Return are the same event to do so is misleading.
Reason Seventeen
Blessed Hope:
Pretribbers cite Titus 2:13 as proof that the Rapture occurs before the Tribulation.
“as we await the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ” Titus 2:13
Pretribbers claim that if the Rapture takes place after the Tribulation than Jesus is no longer a blessed hope.
Based upon that logic and rationale than Jesus is not the blessed hope for all of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd century Christians who suffered great persecution and death for the name of Jesus.
Based upon that logic and rationale than Jesus is not the blessed hope for all of the Christians who are being persecuted right now.
But most telling is that the Pretribbers are saying that Jesus is not the “blessed hope” for the millions of Tribulation saints, those Believers who will have to endure the Great Tribulation.
In fact according to Pretribbers, Jesus isn’t the “blessed hope” for the Tribulation saints but He becomes the “blasted hope.”
If Jesus is not a blessed hope for Tribulation saints than He is not a blessed hope.
But we know that Jesus is a blessed hope and therefore is a blessed hope for Tribulation saints.
Therefore the premise put forth by the Pretribbers is contradicted by the Word of God
Left Behind
“On that day,
let no one on the housetop
come down to retrieve his possessions.
Likewise, let no one in the field return for anything he has
left behind.”
“Remember Lot’s wife!”
Lk. 17:31-32
Jesus says that when He comes it will be just like it was in the days of Noah leading up to the flood and just like in the days of Lot in Sodom when fire and brimstone rained down.
Lk. 17:26-35 and Mth. 24:36-44
On the DAY that Noah entered the ark and on the day that Lot left Sodom ALL who were LEFT BEHIND were destroyed.
Jesus’ warning to His followers is that if a person is left behind like missing the boat in Noah’s day or like failing to follow the angels out of the Sodom in Lot’s day or even like Lot’s wife longing for the sinful world on the way will result in destruction. No one left behind was saved and there was no opportunity for a second chance.
Pretribbers state that
millions who are LEFT BEHIND
after the Rapture
will be saved.
That is false.
LEFT BEHIND?
GOD DOESN’T LEAVE HIS OWN BEHIND.
BECAUSE ALL WHO ARE LEFT BEHIND ARE DESTROYED JUST AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH.
ONLY A REMNEANT OF JEWS WHO COME TO FAITH IN JESUS
AND A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WILL SURVIVE TRIBULATION AND THE DAYOF LORD
TO REPOPULATE THE EARTH DURING THE
1,000 YEAR REIGN OF JESUS.
“Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles”
Zechariah 14:16
Zechariah 14:16 clearly identifies that unbelievers will survive through the end of the tribulation into the 1,000 year reign of Jesus.
“And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved;
but because of the elect, those days will be shortened.”
Matthew 24:22
The current world population is 8 billion people.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
“And I looked, and behold, a pale horse, and the one sitting on it, the name of him was Death, and Hades was following with him; and authority was given to them over the fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, and with famine, and with plague, and by the beasts of the earth.” Revelation 6:8
A fourth of the earth could equate to 2 billion people.
“And the second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea. And a third of the sea became blood, and a third of the creatures having life in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed. And the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star fell out of heaven, burning like a torch. And it fell upon a third of the rivers, and upon the springs of waters. And the name of the star is called Wormwood. And a third of the waters became wormwood, and many of the men died from the waters, because they were made bitter.”
Revelation 8:8-11
In a world of 8 billion people many would conservatively be 1 billion.
“…saying to the sixth angel, the one having the trumpet, “Release the four angels, those having been bound at the great river Euphrates. And the four angels having been prepared for the hour and day and month and year were released, so that they might kill a third of mankind.” Revelation 9:14-15
By these three plagues, a third of mankind was killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone proceeding out of their mouths.” Revelation 9:18
One third of 8 billion is 2.6 billion people.
or 1.6 billion people if having deducted 3 billion from the total
“And great hailstones weighing almost a hundred pounds each rained down on them from above.
And men cursed God for the plague of hail, because it was so horrendous.”
Revelation 16:20
Hundreds of millions of people.
“Now the rest of mankind
who were not killed by these plagues
still did not repent of the works of their hands.”
Revelation 9:20
“And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits, like frogs; for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go forth to the kings of the whole inhabited world, to gather them together unto the battle of the great day of God the Almighty. “Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one watching and keeping his garments, so that he should not walk naked and they might see his shame.” And he gathered them together unto the place called in Hebrew Armageddon.” Revelation 16:13-16
“And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies,
having been gathered together to make war with the One sitting on the horse and with His army.
And the rest were killed
with the sword of the One sitting on the horse
having gone forth out of his mouth.”
Revelation 19:19,21
Prior to the great battle of Armageddon it is safe to conclude that at least 6 billion people have been killed by the judgments of God who are not Christians. Several hundred million more people who are Christians will be killed by the antichrist and the God hating world. That leaves about one billion people left on earth when Jesus returns;
most of whom will participate in the battle against Jesus.
This one billion people will be killed by Jesus Christ Himself when He returns, leaving almost none to survive.
“Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed.” Revelation 6:11
“After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. So he replied, These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” Revelation 7:9; 14
“And the dragon was enraged at the woman, and went to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.” Revelation 12:17
“Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.” Revelation 13:7
“The second beast was permitted to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship it to be killed.” Revelation 13:15
Hundreds of millions of Christians will be killed during the tribulation.
The world’s population was roughly:
4000 BCE 7 million
2000 BCE 27 million
1 AD 170 million
500 AD 190 million
1000 AD 254 million
1500 425 million
1800 813 million
1850 1.12 billion
1900 1.55 billion
1950 2.40 billion
2000 6 billion
2022 8 billion
https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/international-programs/historical-est-worldpop.html
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/
The world’s population was 170 million at the time of Jesus’ birth.
The worlds population increased:
163 million over the first 4,000 years
247 million over the first 5,000 years
417 million over the first 5,500 years
1.54 billion over the first 5,900 years
Over the last 500 years the world’s population increased by 7.5 billion people.
Over the last 250 years the world’s population increased by 7 billion people.
Over the last 100 years the world’s population increased by 6.5 billion people.
Over the last 50 years the world’s population increased by 5.6 billion people.
I estimate that the world will have a population of about 170 to 200 million people at the beginning of Jesus’ 1,000 year reign. The odds of you surviving to the end are minuscule as 97.8% of the world’s population will be dead leaving 2.2% alive.
Plus even if you survive to the end you still need to accept Jesus as your savior to inherit eternal life. For even if you make it to the end of the tribulation you will still die of old age and face the judgment. If you face the judgment without Jesus as your sacrifice you will die in your sins and be judged rightly deserving eternal separation from God sentenced to hell,
the lake of fire, for all eternity.
DON’T BE LEFT BEHIND!
“On that day,
let no one on the housetop
come down to retrieve his possessions.
Likewise, let no one in the field return for anything he has
left behind.”
“Remember Lot’s wife!”
Lk. 17:31-32
Jesus says that when He comes it will be just like it was in the days of Noah leading up to the flood and just like in the days of Lot in Sodom when fire and brimstone rained down.
Lk. 17:26-35 and Mth. 24:36-44
On the DAY that Noah entered the ark and on the day that Lot left Sodom ALL who were LEFT BEHIND were destroyed.
Jesus’ warning to His followers is that if a person is left behind like missing the boat in Noah’s day or like failing to follow the angels out of the Sodom in Lot’s day or even like Lot’s wife longing for the sinful world on the way will result in destruction. No one left behind was saved and there was no opportunity for a second chance.
Pretribbers state that
millions who are LEFT BEHIND
after the Rapture
will be saved.
That is false.
LEFT BEHIND?
GOD DOESN’T LEAVE HIS OWN BEHIND.
BECAUSE ALL WHO ARE LEFT BEHIND ARE DESTROYED JUST AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH.
ONLY A REMNEANT OF JEWS WHO COME TO FAITH IN JESUS
AND A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WILL SURVIVE TRIBULATION AND THE DAYOF LORD
TO REPOPULATE THE EARTH DURING THE
1,000 YEAR REIGN OF JESUS.
“Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles”
Zechariah 14:16
Zechariah 14:16 clearly identifies that unbelievers will survive through the end of the tribulation into the 1,000 year reign of Jesus.
“And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved;
but because of the elect, those days will be shortened.”
Matthew 24:22
The current world population is 8 billion people.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
“And I looked, and behold, a pale horse, and the one sitting on it, the name of him was Death, and Hades was following with him; and authority was given to them over the fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, and with famine, and with plague, and by the beasts of the earth.” Revelation 6:8
A fourth of the earth could equate to 2 billion people.
“And the second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea. And a third of the sea became blood, and a third of the creatures having life in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed. And the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star fell out of heaven, burning like a torch. And it fell upon a third of the rivers, and upon the springs of waters. And the name of the star is called Wormwood. And a third of the waters became wormwood, and many of the men died from the waters, because they were made bitter.”
Revelation 8:8-11
In a world of 8 billion people many would conservatively be 1 billion.
“…saying to the sixth angel, the one having the trumpet, “Release the four angels, those having been bound at the great river Euphrates. And the four angels having been prepared for the hour and day and month and year were released, so that they might kill a third of mankind.” Revelation 9:14-15
By these three plagues, a third of mankind was killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone proceeding out of their mouths.” Revelation 9:18
One third of 8 billion is 2.6 billion people.
or 1.6 billion people if having deducted 3 billion from the total
“And great hailstones weighing almost a hundred pounds each rained down on them from above.
And men cursed God for the plague of hail, because it was so horrendous.”
Revelation 16:20
Hundreds of millions of people.
“Now the rest of mankind
who were not killed by these plagues
still did not repent of the works of their hands.”
Revelation 9:20
“And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits, like frogs; for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go forth to the kings of the whole inhabited world, to gather them together unto the battle of the great day of God the Almighty. “Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one watching and keeping his garments, so that he should not walk naked and they might see his shame.” And he gathered them together unto the place called in Hebrew Armageddon.” Revelation 16:13-16
“And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies,
having been gathered together to make war with the One sitting on the horse and with His army.
And the rest were killed
with the sword of the One sitting on the horse
having gone forth out of his mouth.”
Revelation 19:19,21
Prior to the great battle of Armageddon it is safe to conclude that at least 6 billion people have been killed by the judgments of God who are not Christians. Several hundred million more people who are Christians will be killed by the antichrist and the God hating world. That leaves about one billion people left on earth when Jesus returns;
most of whom will participate in the battle against Jesus.
This one billion people will be killed by Jesus Christ Himself when He returns, leaving almost none to survive.
“Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed.” Revelation 6:11
“After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. So he replied, These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” Revelation 7:9; 14
“And the dragon was enraged at the woman, and went to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.” Revelation 12:17
“Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.” Revelation 13:7
“The second beast was permitted to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship it to be killed.” Revelation 13:15
Hundreds of millions of Christians will be killed during the tribulation.
The world’s population was roughly:
4000 BCE 7 million
2000 BCE 27 million
1 AD 170 million
500 AD 190 million
1000 AD 254 million
1500 425 million
1800 813 million
1850 1.12 billion
1900 1.55 billion
1950 2.40 billion
2000 6 billion
2022 8 billion
https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/international-programs/historical-est-worldpop.html
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/
The world’s population was 170 million at the time of Jesus’ birth.
The worlds population increased:
163 million over the first 4,000 years
247 million over the first 5,000 years
417 million over the first 5,500 years
1.54 billion over the first 5,900 years
Over the last 500 years the world’s population increased by 7.5 billion people.
Over the last 250 years the world’s population increased by 7 billion people.
Over the last 100 years the world’s population increased by 6.5 billion people.
Over the last 50 years the world’s population increased by 5.6 billion people.
I estimate that the world will have a population of about 170 to 200 million people at the beginning of Jesus’ 1,000 year reign. The odds of you surviving to the end are minuscule as 97.8% of the world’s population will be dead leaving 2.2% alive.
Plus even if you survive to the end you still need to accept Jesus as your savior to inherit eternal life. For even if you make it to the end of the tribulation you will still die of old age and face the judgment. If you face the judgment without Jesus as your sacrifice you will die in your sins and be judged rightly deserving eternal separation from God sentenced to hell,
the lake of fire, for all eternity.
DON’T BE LEFT BEHIND!
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